Re: Educate me: 9mm or 40 S&W Carbine « Reply #16 on: May 19, 2010, 03:20:56 pm » My other arguement is that if you are planning to use it for clearing a room, a pistol is lot easier to control and to retain possession if it gets into a hand to hand situation. I assumed they were much closer than they actually are ballistics wise. That is the bullet is under [inside, not lower] the dot at all times. India and Pakistan manufactured 9mm Parabellum ammunition to this standard after independence. These carbines feature 4-way aluminum forearms for the rail, retractable stock, and flat-top receivers. I agree .357 magnum would have similar ballistics as .30 carbine, both shot from carbines. Interesting info i just found out. A few months ago I purchased a Ruger PC carbine in 9mm. Perfect for a HD weapon. This year, Maker Bullets is making a splash in clear ballistics-gel blocks with the introduction of three 9 mm cartridges designed specifically for pistol-caliber carbines. For limited range applications, I like the 9mm carbine ballistics. Also, each carbine used a Picatinny rail gas block. Pistol vs Carbine and differences in ammunition performance.Range Hot - June 29, 2014 […] I have received, as test samples, a Hi Point 916 C9 pistol chambered in 9mm Luger as well as a Hi Point 995TS carbine chambered in 9mm Luger. Canada's cartridge S.A. ball 9 m/m CDN Mark I (9 mm ball CDN MK 1), made since 1955, has similar ballistics. The 9mm version used 1 in 10 rifling. Remember, we’re looking for something like 12 to 18 inches of penetration along with 150% expansion. An unfair comparison might be .30 FMJ against 9mm +P+ JHP out of the same barrel length. Ballistics 9mm Carbine Vs 9mm Handgun And Beat Handgun For Women is best in online store. A Variety of Models to Choose From Has a hard time finding one in CA. Use a bonded bullet is you are worried about jacket separation. For the 5.56mm carbine, its barrel has rifling in one-in-seven right-hand twist. .223 Remington Ammo I can also almost guarantee that you already have a pistol if you're reading this, so you'd be able to utilize that ammo in multiple types of firearms if you owned a pistol caliber carbine. Below are five of the best 9mm carbines that are currently on the market. With this zero the bullet is no more than an inch from line of sight (the dot or your iron sights) from about 15 yards to 100 yards. Review of the Best 9mm Carbines. Hell no. On the specific question of 9mm vs 223 in a carbine, my primary personal defensive carbine is a 223 AR, set up pretty typically. 8. So let’s look at the gel tests, starting again with the 147-grain HSTs. Rock River Arms LAR-9 CAR A4 Carbine. California and New York come to mind when talking about this subject. 9mm Trajectory chart vs .40 S&W Trajectory Chart shows the direct relationship between the 9mm muzzle velocity and the .40 S&W muzzle velocity when fired from a 16" barrel on a pistol caliber carbine and when fired from a 4.5" barrel on a pistol. 9mm and other pistol calibers are incredibly popular and readily available in the civilian market. Will the 9mm compete with 223 to 250 yards? Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Is the 9mm Carbine I want available where I live? Although the 38 has a slightly larger diameter bullet and longer case and bullet weight can be slightly more, the 9mm's velocity blows the 38 away. It can be distinguished from the 9 mm ball MK 1z by its purple annulus around a silver primer. As for operation, the 5.56mm model was CMMG’s new gas-piston carbine and the 9mm version used a … But when JSP is used with the .30 Carbine, the edge goes to the .30. If you are interested in one of these click the link to get more info and purchase. Would be interested to see a ballistic chart for the PC carbine in both the 9mm and .40 S&W and how it translates into muzzle energy compared to a … Bullet weight is 7.5 grams (116 gr). A carbine of the same weight, firing a 115-grain, 9 mm load produces less than half that recoil, while one in .40 S&W generates only about two-thirds the recoil of a 5.56 NATO carbine. Comparisons. With .30 carbine still being the more powerful round. For the average officer, the Ruger PC Carbine is intuitive to carry, sight and fire. Metalform 32 round stick magazines fed the 9mm carbine. Both barrels were capped with a NATO-style birdcage flash suppressor. Otherwise, the .30 Carbine load kicks the tar out of 9x19mm when comparing ballistics.Comparing ball ammo, the advantage of the .30 is even more pronounced. Comparing a 9mm carbine to a 9mm handgun ballistic test. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Both carbines have 16-inch barrels with one chambering in 9mm and the other 5.56mm or .223 Remington. Anyone that’s shot both a 10mm and a 9mm round certainly understands that these two cartridges are different. Otherwise, the .30 Carbine load kicks the tar out of 9x19mm when comparing ballistics. While the list is subject to change between now and the next year, this will give you a good opportunity to know what is popular among carbine users right now. 30 Carbine with a fun ballistic gel test. It is however very versatile and … In my opinion, in the case of 9mm vs. .357 Sig, 9mm is the clear winner. Zeroing a 9mm AR Carbine by LTC Chuck Santose 115gr 9mm Parabellum, (not 124gr 9mm NATO for this one.) When you have moved from being a beginner and can really appreciate what a great 9mm carbine can do, then you should get the Rock River Arms Lar-9 CAR A4 firearm. So let's take a look at some of the best 9mm carbines out there. Here’s what you need to know about 10mm and 9mm ballistics and stopping power. But, my Beretta CX4 and Ruger PC9 will both put print 5 shots into an eyeball at 50 yards. I mounted a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot sight on the gun and shot it today at my home property pistol range at 25 yards. The 9mm cartridge is remarkably efficient and makes the best use of its powder charge in short barrels, and if you peruse the charts over at Ballistics By The Inch you’ll find that the standard-pressure 9mm loads don’t gain much in the 16-inch-long barrel of the typical carbine. It can also handle the same magazine as the Beretta Cx4 Storm pistol that’s available as a 9mm … If all you can get is fmj ammo, I'd HUGELY recommend the 223 over the 9mm. The 9mm lower was a dedicated receiver, not a plugged or modified AR-type. If all you shoot is paper, you train a lot, and you aren’t shooting for long-range accuracy, the cheapest ball will do. It has been mainly designed for self defense. Readily Available Ammo. Terril reviews the power of . In widely circulated tests, a 115-grain 9mm JHP picks up an additional 200 fps of velocity when fired from a 16-inch barrel of a PCC versus the more traditional 4-inch barrel of a full-sized handgun and even higher with +P ammo (which should be the choice for personal defense with a carbine) putting a 9mm out of a PCC into the same fps ballpark as a .357 SIG fired from a pistol. But I also have 9mm carbines and I'd have absolutely no problem trusting one of them for close-range defensive use - if loaded thoughtfully. The CX4 Storm ergonomically performs like a pistol with the ballistics of a 9mm carbine. It doesn’t outperform 9mm in credible ballistic tests, it costs more, the mags hold less ammo, and (I’ve seen this happen) if you’re not paying attention you might buy .357 Magnum ammo on accident for your .357 Sig. And this year in particular, pistol-caliber carbines (PCC) chambered in 9 mm have enjoyed a surge in sales not seen before. But when JSP is used with the .30 Carbine… Comparing ball ammo, the advantage of the .30 is even more pronounced. The 9mm cartridge still has a place in a law enforcement carbine due to its low recoil and accurate fire. Recommend you zero at 25 yards. But again, .357 mag is nearly twice the power of 9mm. 9mm Carbine Ballistic Gel Testing. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. The Beretta CX4 Storm carbine was designed to give law enforcement a lightweight pistol caliber rifle option that’s just as effective. 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